WIP: First track (dadayum) w/ vocals

21Fretter

It's been a long time coming but I've finally found someone that gels and clicks with my tracks!

This is more of a "check out the direction we're going for" than a mixing review (my mixing always needs work) but anything that jumps out to you please do feel free to mention. I did struggle to get the vocals to have warmth/body, a sits a little on top of the track.

Edit: - new link!

P.S. There would be a lead of some sort in the 2:06 section that I haven't recorded yet and I'm still heavily debating the structure in general.

:bopping:

ParadoximA

Link isn't working at the moment ☹
But I hit play on your other trucks - good stuff!

"Dadayum Drums Outed" reminded me of 90's Smashing Pumpkins (when they were at their best).

More!

21Fretter

There's plenty more where that came from ?

Updated the link, I wasn't using SoundCloud's private sharing properly.

Psean

ParadoximA wrote: "Dadayum Drums Outed" reminded me of 90's Smashing Pumpkins (when they were at their best).

Ooh! Short on bandwidth ATM but will be sure to check that out.

StephenG

to be honest i never listen to clips on this site, because i am hardly on here any more, but I really liked this.

not my kind of genre at all.. but to hear a singer who can actually be heard and isnt trying to wring the last chord from his throat is really refreshing. when the track started with the guitar, i was expecting someone to start shouting the lyrics as loud as they could, but this is really nice.

well done guys.

AlanRatcliffe

Some great potential there.

The singer is going to be good - I can hear that already. He needs to work a little on his pitching when he isn't pushing it (he has a tendency to go a little flat), otherwise great.

You're struggling to lift the voice because the guitars are too dry and "forward". Add a little more ambience to them and they will fall back a bit. Predelays on vocal ambience can help the voice jump out while still having a sense of space. If your reverb supports it, less short reflections, more room will also help.

eyesuc

Alan Ratcliffe wrote:He needs to work a little on his pitching when he isn't pushing it (he has a tendency to go a little flat)

Is there anything you would recommend to help fix that? Like exercises or something? Unless there is a drug for it ?

AlanRatcliffe

Pulling him back in his monitor mix when he records will make him sing harder, but I don't think that's what's required here. Mostly just practice. It's unusual - most singers are the other way round - singing sharp when they push it. I'd guess that he's more used to singing hard than he is soft so has learned to pitch a little flat and now he has the luxury of being able to sing (relatively) softly in a studio setting, he's still compensating.

What I might try is separate out the bad bits and fix the pitch digitally - then get him to rerecord those parts using the corrected tracks as a guide for him to sing unison with. Works well if the singer's timing is consistent (if it's not he'll come out all stilted).

Otherwise just get him to record the whole track a few times then create a mult track with the best bits from each take. Added bonus is it gives you a few options for double-tracking the voice in a few places.

Another approach is to create a mix with the same feel but softer, cleaner guitars (hell, go acoustic if you have to). Get him to record a few takes like that and see if he's better at nailing the pitch in those parts. Then put the heavies back in and mult the softer vocal bits in where necessary.

21Fretter

Thanks a lot for the support and suggestions guys ? Hopefully Rudy and I will be able to kick things into overdrive soon enough between work and university, finish up some of our tracks, create an EP of sorts and start trying to fill the lineup!

We do want to ultimately get into a studio and get the material recorded, my PC isn't the best for mixing

eyesuc

Alan Ratcliffe wrote: I'd guess that he's more used to singing hard than he is soft so has learned to pitch a little flat and now he has the luxury of being able to sing (relatively) softly in a studio setting, he's still compensating.

Right on the money... You scare me Alan ??? Lots of practice required.