LMinnie
W.....T.....F!!!!!
I can do that in ten minutes on the pavement outside!!!!!!
Sean
Lawrence wrote:
W.....T.....F!!!!!
I can do that in ten minutes on the pavement outside!!!!!!
LOL @ Lawrence ?
Ray
Hold on! Havent we missed it. It's humor man! Imagine everyone pitching for a jam and everyone knows that Sean has bought himself a new guitar and everyone wants to check it out and get all backslappy and stuff. and he pulls out his "new" tele. They'll think he bought it on gumpole.
Explorerlover
Yngwie's latest sig. strat also looks like it has been dragged behind a bakkie on a gravel road, but according to Total Guitar, it will cost 7999 GBP Sterling.....insane
Werner-Carstens
LOL, I am really enjoying your opinions. But seriously, have you ever considered walking into a BMW garage to buy a new car and having the option to buy a shiny new one or one that has been aged and relic'd. The relic'd one will be much more expensive - obviously - and according to the salesman the engine "sounds" a lot better and smoother than the shiny one and the front loader will only play music from the 50's and 60's with new technology that mimicks the sound of scratches on LP's or COSM technology that reproduces a His Master's Voice.
Where is the respect for one's own toil and sweat?
Explorerlover
HA!HA!HA!HA!.... imagine... " No thanks, I'd rather have the BMW with the yellowing headlamps and stonechips and please also the chipped and cracked windscreen"
JoEllis
I must say I'm not too fond of the whole relic-thing, although I have a real soft spot for guitars that have real proper battle scars, especially if those battle scars don't say "abuse" (which most relic-jobs look like to me anyway). There's a certain mojo that a guitar has that looks like that from being played for years and years. It's a living thing with a history - it has authority and personality. To me there is just something wrong with manufacturing a guitar to look like it has that kind of mojo.
It must be real funny when someone buys a relic'd guitar only to be too scared to put any marks on it! ?
Renesongs
My Strat is well worn and dented and I love it just the way it is. I can appreciate a retro looks, but artificial relicing is just plain Fake. It's like putting artificial mud on your Chelsea tractor (SUV) or having your bride "broken in" by the hells angels before you marry her.
Sean
Renesongs wrote:
... or having your bride "broken in" by the hells angels before you marry her.
??? ??? ??? Point taken...I think ?
Keira-WitherKay
mmm tricky subject to debate.....
welli must say i have plans for a luthier to build me a replica of the acoustic guitars called (new romantica guitars) the forerunner to the classical guitar as we know it.... and i have already discussed with a luthier to make it not look glossy and new but aged..... as those instruments truly do not look good when shiny heheheh lol they were from 1700's and SECONDLY i'm too old to buy it and wait for it to age...lol i doubt i have 30 years in this body heheheheheh
so yeah if thats your vibe ..or in my case i think it would suite the authsetics of the instrument being a replica of a 300 year old guitar .... i would say yeah it's way cool and thats my vote
DaFiz
My nephew brought a Tanglewood strat copy from London and left it with me.
It just lay there in it's hard case looking and sounding like it had died in the war.
I eventually hauled it out and restrung it with a new bridge cluster and a tighter spring in the neck and she's ready for more... but she'll never feel, look or sound as beautiful as that Maroon Fender Stratocastor that never became mine.
I wonder where she is now ☹.
Sean
MoJo JoJoe wrote:
I've mentioned this before, but let me re-state it here...I really believe people should empower themselves and not take things at face value. By that I mean that instead of getting all rabid about the fact that there's a new relic'd series from Fender, people should go online and check them out. Take a look at the specs and all other angles before you jump in on a thread and basically "follow the sheep" (I'm really not trying to make enemies - it's just me telling it like I see it).
Not sure who you thought was "getting all rabid", all the posts seem quite low key to me.
I don't have a problem with the specs, and the whole nitro finish "thingie" is very impressive ( technical jargon from a newbie ? ) Was just commenting on the fake look.
Renesongs
I think the real sheep are people that buy signature or road worn guitars that look identical to their guitar hero's one and truly expect to sound like their guitar hero does when they play it. The truth is that Blackie sound good when Eric Clapton is playing her. Put in the hands of a guitar noob, she could very well sound like a beaten up old 2 by 4 with strings on.
Werner-Carstens
Ho Mojo Jojoe, very valid comments and I must congratulate you on being the only one thus far defending the viability of artificial ageing. I have to agree with your statements regarding the decent quality of the Road Worn series and that they are not standard MIM instruments. I have not read the review yet in the Guitarist magazine but saw that they received the Guitarist choice award, which usually means a good thing. I own a MIM Strat myself and love it to bits.
The qustion is however whether you prefer artificial ageing or natural ageing? As you mentioned lost of people do like the artificial ageing and I think that is the crucial point here. Fender will not do it if there weren't a huge demand as you rightly pointed out.
So sorry guys, allthough most of us feel that it is fake and sometimes ridiculous we might be in the minority as the demand seems to be growing. It might not make a lot of sense to us, but for some (lots) it does and that is what is driving this market.
I foresee that we will see a lot more models with these type of finishes in the few years to come and we will have to get use to it.
Fortunately we can each decide what we want to spend our money on. As long as we can still choose between a shiny or knackered new guitar when buying there should still be peace in the guitar universe.
Thanks for your opinions - highly appreciated.
clinton
Fashion in regards to guitar finishes will constantly change with the times. (Anyone remember the hideous luminous colors of the guitars in the late 80's)
This is unfortunately due to the fact that we as a people would love to think that if we LOOK like our heroes and have the same gear as our heroes, that this will somehow help us to PLAY like our heroes. The whole market around SIGNATURE instruments revolves and thrives around this fact.
For me, buying a relic'ed guitar is just not worth it.
The price is one thing but here's something else to consider:
It's gonna be real RANDOM when someone wants to know the story of your guitar and how it came to look like that. Instead of tales of hotel windows, drunken fans, police dogs and a fire at a gig. All you gonna say is:"I bought it like that."
On the price issue there is another consideration: Many times we get obsessed with only one aspect of the gear we need to be musicians.
Whats the use of buying an expensive signature guitar and then plugging it in through a LEEM 10 watt practice amp with cruddy cables and a Roktec METAL ULTRA DEATH BASTARD guitar pedal. Your sound is only as strong as your weakest source.
Now if the Hendrix Signature Strat could actually make me play like Hendrix.......well then, bye bye my sons college fund.
clinton
Now I gotta admit that the clapton strat I WOULD like....... ?