Burger King

IceCreamMan · 2013-05-09T23:58:27+00:00

ok , let me admit to it , I love burger king fries ....and am insanely annoyed BK decided to open in CTN instead of here...... so any of you capies been yet? ?

evolucian

Ah... MiVami... Such memories. I was young and passed out on the bar counter from maybe too much stroh rum.... maybe. My friend wakes me up and tells me we have to go, all the while pointing at our other friend who was waving his rapier around and the manager ducking and diving on each swing.. His shirt that night was Slayer spray painted on blue and red over his whole upper body. He might have been suffocating, hence the outburst.

Ah... MiVami...

And yes, I agree with Tokai. We do have a huge problem regarding fast food. Yoh... is very bahd

Squonk

@Tokai decent Hot Dog at the Hillfox flea market, even has fried onions

Stubbs

Tokai SA wrote After watching Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives for a few years, it's clear to me, WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM IN SOUTH AFRICA...and that problem is, our take away food is a disgrace.

If we do happen to get a take out doing pretty good hamburgers, like Black Steer & Chuckleberry's, they end up going insolvent because Steers controls the market with their garbage.

For a great hamburger I recommend the Grill House (was Gourmet Garage) in Katherine St, Turn & Tender in Illovo.

Our pizza take aways are decent (if they have a proper wood burning oven), Nandos are good but they're lazy (same thing for years, nothing new), Steers is poison, Kentucky is ok if they have a lucky day and happen to cook some good pieces of chicken.

Mi Vami, do you remember the days when there was a big fat juicy piece of meat spinning on their grill, and they used to slice your meat off the grill and make your Shawarma?...now days they have the meat in a little plastic bag in the fridge then they cook it on the flat grill. :?

Anat...well, thank G-d for Anat, at least they still make a decent Shawarma.
Menachin and his wife Anat were my next door neighbours for 10 years.
My son and Menachim's son used to work at their first mobile Shawarma 'joint' at Bruma flee market...wow, he's sure made a success of the business, good luck to him.

Reubens used to make a killer beef on rye when they were at the petrol station is Athol, now they're in the Benmore Shopping centre, it's still pretty good, but not like it used to be.

Burger King. ?
Hoping they make an edible burger unlike McDonalds garbage.

Can anybody tell me where to get a decent hot dog or toasted cheese in Johannesburg?
Let me answer, there is no half decent toasted cheese or hot dog anywhere in Johannesburg. ?

I agree completely with the MacDonalds statements, but what's wrong with Steers? Fresh lettuce, tomato and buns, flame-grilled patties and I've hardly ever had bad chips there.

To go back to what Singlemonkey said, what if you don't live in one of the bigger cities in South Africa where there aren't plenty of places to get a really good burger? I don't know how often any of you guys travel long distances via car/bus or how often you need quick cheap food, but to me Steers Diner is pretty damn perfect.

I'm not saying that one should rely on fast food and that it should be a regular part of our lives, but I really don't see a problem with Steers.

IceCreamMan

babbalute wrote
IceCreamMan wrote I am Belgian an we make the perfect pomme frite ...we fry em twice

Hot oil, insert chips...cook til the start to rise remove from oil....ensure u remove all the oil from the fries by dabbing em on paper....ensure oil does not get over hot...just before serving put em back in oil for a couple minutes at voila..the perfect chip....

Mmmm going to Belgium in August..looking forward to mussels and chips from the roadside trucks ...with mayo....oh he'll I am hungry
Hi fellow Belgian, the best packet o "fritte" (chis for English) comes most certainly from a roadsite truck or caravan in Belgium. and there is only one way to fry as you indicate. all other variations cannot beat the Belgium way.

Ik kom van Antwaarpe, gebore en getoge, all sins 1986 in Zuid Africa en ik goan ook oop vakaanse naar den Belgick in Julij. Natuurlijk alleen mor ver de mossele me frit.
Ze hebben ook goei mossele in Den Anker op de Waterfront in Koapstad, goei mosselsoas en de fritte da goat nogal.

On Burger King: not another junk food take away ? exactly what we need in these bad economic times. I suppose the burgers will include donkey, water buffalo, horse etc. Maybe this is why the 9 Ton of kangaroo meat was imported into SA recently ? As long as you don't see the burger patty make from fresh meat and other ingredient do you really know what you're eating ? On the other hand if it tastes good do we really care ?

Bonjour... Born in Louvain (my folks were students) moved here in 76. Walloon i am but have no problem eith understanding flemish. I probably understand it better than french these days. I fill in all the flemish documents at the embassy ? it makes them smile as i tell them i am french then fill in the flemish documents. Looking forard to my trip ,not been back since 2000 and thats a shame. I want to take my small son to theplaces i went to as a kid... The lakes, feeding the ducks in Tervuren that kind of thing...anyway i reminisce to much. My wife is an english rose so i need to educatenher too on tihe fine foods available. Black pufding and the like although she knows that but the fine chocalatiers etc...drink coffee and croissant on the main squarein brussels....100 days to go more or less...enjoy yr trip.

Diners,drive ins and dives ismy favourite program on tv...i dont jave tv but i get them downloaded an i have guy fieri books om kindle...love the show and the books are great too. Funny enough i dont like the pizza here itis too "heavy" for my gut..takes days to download and too salty. Prefer my pizza with less cheese and more natural..funny thing the best pizza i ever had was whileliving in tel aviv...sparse ingredients and it worked...and this brings me to the felafels i often had in tel aviv...dayum the farmers markets had mighty fine felafels...again simple but excellent....

Steers burgers are pretty good i reckon , nandos chicken good but i think they put their chickens on diet the last coupleof years..not as filling as years ago. Steers fries i generally do not eat as while they good they put that crap spice on em...I despise kentucky..to salty obut their coffee is good... Gourmet garae at monte makes decent burgers at good pricies....as a lad in ZA we used to ride our 50's to hillbrow to Al's burgers....damn that was a fine burger...huge.....ended up living above als at some point to while at varsity...tropicals / mivami regualr aunts in them days...

Hot dogs...mmm my wife goes to the seemans outlet in strydom park andbuys the best bratwurts, bockwurst,frankfurters etc and cooks up a storm with onions the whole trip....mmmmm mustard,lashings of and i am away...toasted cheeses ,well i like the mugg an bean ones u et with the tomato soup.....

And finally , the mighty belgians eat everything with mayo...but not that abomination stuff one finds in stores we make our own...its an art passed from father to son ...short "shelf" life, not healthy( but who cares) but divinely awesome...some things in life make it worth living, music, food, women, mayo.... ?

flatfourfan

ActionArnie wrote
evolucian wrote What does triple frying the chips do?

As far as I understand it... fry them once, let them cool completely, then fry again to get french fries (or rather americanised version). So if we let them cool down completely again and then fry them... are we preparing for dust?

What I'm trying to work out is how to get my patties shiny after grilling. Some say oil, some say basting... pretty much all comes out charred to me.
I worked at KFC for a year. Multi-frying stuff was a common occurrence, not to improve the taste though. Staff would cook extra chicken & chips the night before and then officially write it off as waste as it wasn't sold by closing time. They'd then be on shift the next morning and peel the fried flour off the chicken and re-flour and fry it. Idea was that then they could sell the written-off stuff first thing and pocket the takings.

Entrepreneurship is alive and well!

That's not triple frying........that's just re-cooking left overs and plain dodgy.

Triple frying with chips is cooking them once till they pretty much go all sloppy on a low heat, you take them out, drain them, turn the heat up to about 1/2 way and about 5 min later put them back in, cook till firm, then take them out again, repeat the procedure and up the heat to full, then pop them back in for a quick cook until light brown.

Triple frying gives you that soft centre and nice crispy exterior, rosemary, salt, pepper and some chicken spice makes the best damn homemade fries that you've ever tasted, once you've had those, you will never buy store bought again.

Many shops multi-fry because that way that can cook a crap load from raw early in the morning and basically just heat them up as the day goes on, sometimes with stuff laying for hours before heating it up.

Good tip for a juicy burger is to give it a quick baste with A1 steak sauce just before you're about to pull it out......

Bob-Dubery

flatfourfan wrote
That's not triple frying........that's just re-cooking left overs and plain dodgy.

I was born in England. In 60s England re-cooking left overs was considered thrifty, part of a well balanced diet and usually resulted in the tastiest meal of the week.

flatfourfan

Tokai SA wrote Can anybody tell me where to get a decent hot dog or toasted cheese in Johannesburg?
Let me answer, there is no half decent toasted cheese or hot dog anywhere in Johannesburg. ?

Do you have a Brewers in jhb? They made one hell of a hotdog called a grill-o dog.........

X-rated Bob wrote
flatfourfan wrote
That's not triple frying........that's just re-cooking left overs and plain dodgy.
I was born in England. In 60s England re-cooking left overs was considered thrifty, part of a well balanced diet and usually resulted in the tastiest meal of the week.

Born in the UK as well, re cooking leftovers was a way of life for our family, where do you think sheperds pie and toad in the hole comes from?

Bob-Dubery

flatfourfan wrote Born in the UK as well, re cooking leftovers was a way of life for our family, where do you think sheperds pie and toad in the hole comes from?

Toad in the hole never struck me as being about left overs, or necessarily so. I was thinking more of bubble and squeak, a dish I always enjoyed.

My grandmothers used to hoard dripping like crazy and never, ever threw bones out until they'd boiled every scrap of meat and marrow out of them. Then they'd sell them to the bone merchant. One granny used to position things in the oven so that anything that dripped or fell off the roast would end up in the yorkshire pud.

I never got to like bread and dripping (or tea, a bit odd for an English person) but bubble and squeak was right up my street.

A lot of this, of course, comes from shortages during and after WWII.

Bob-Dubery

I were born in a cardboard box in the middle of the road. Our dad used to wake us up two hours before we went to sleep and we got a cup of cold poison for breakfast.

Etc etc.

flatfourfan

X-rated Bob wrote
flatfourfan wrote Born in the UK as well, re cooking leftovers was a way of life for our family, where do you think sheperds pie and toad in the hole comes from?
Toad in the hole never struck me as being about left overs, or necessarily so. I was thinking more of bubble and squeak, a dish I always enjoyed.

My grandmothers used to hoard dripping like crazy and never, ever threw bones out until you'd boiled every scrap of meat and marrow out of them. Then they'd sell them to the bone merchant. One granny used to position things in the oven so that anything that dripped or fell off the roast would end up in the yorkshire pud.

I never got to like bread and dripping (or tea, a bit odd for an English person) but bubble and squeak was right up my street.

A lot of this, of course, comes from shortages during and after WWII.

My mum used to mince up all left over peices of meat (yup we had a mincer in the house) and put them in casings with a mix of new and left over batter mix from yorkies.

My dad was a dripping hoarder......there would always be a cup of something in the fridge. When my mum would cook a fry up in the grill pan, then pan would be put in the middle of the table with breakfast and you'd have the drippings from bacon, tomato mushrooms and whatever was in there and you'd dunk it up with a door wedge slice of fresh bread.

Gotta love simple pleasures........everything back then was always so damn tasty..........

Squonk

The Truth in the matter is that we have hectically brilliant BURGERS, well at least in JHB and you wont find then at Burger King, Steers or MCd's!

V8

All this burger talk made me hungry...A cheeseburger for yesterday's grand prix lunch. 25mins from mince to munch 8)

singemonkey

Now that's what I'm talkin' about!

flatfourfan

amen....................buns need to be toasted a bit though, stops them getting too soggy too soon..........

I'd SO lay into that sucker...........

Psean

V8 wrote All this burger talk made me hungry...A cheeseburger for yesterday's grand prix lunch. 25mins from mince to munch 8)

Yeah, that's the way to do it ?

Bob-Dubery

V8 wrote All this burger talk made me hungry...A cheeseburger for yesterday's grand prix lunch. 25mins from mince to munch 8)

Well there's part of the problem. We go to a steers or a burger king or whatever and they ask us to wait 25 minutes then we throw our toys.

Some years ago I read a rule of manufacture, expounded by Clifford Stoll, that I've remembered a long time and which seems to be true in all cases.

1) Draw a triangle
2) Label the corners respectively "cheap", "good" and "fast".
3) This law says that you can only have one side of the triangle. IE if you want it good and fast then you can't have it cheaply. If you insist on "fast" and "cheap" then you have to give up on "good". Etc

So McDonald's and the like operate along the fast/cheap line.

evolucian

Hmmm... the triangle is interesting. Will make a note of that... thanks Bob

Stubbs

X-rated Bob wrote
V8 wrote All this burger talk made me hungry...A cheeseburger for yesterday's grand prix lunch. 25mins from mince to munch 8)
Well there's part of the problem. We go to a steers or a burger king or whatever and they ask us to wait 25 minutes then we throw our toys.

Some years ago I read a rule of manufacture, expounded by Clifford Stoll, that I've remembered a long time and which seems to be true in all cases.

1) Draw a triangle
2) Label the corners respectively "cheap", "good" and "fast".
3) This law says that you can only have one side of the triangle. IE if you want it good and fast then you can't have it cheaply. If you insist on "fast" and "cheap" then you have to give up on "good". Etc

So McDonald's and the like operate along the fast/cheap line.

A very useful thing to keep in mind (it's called product mapping), can bring a lot of things into perspective.

flatfourfan

You gotta ask yourself, how can you take this.......

Yeah it's a real whopper, over this........?

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X-rated Bob wrote I were born in a cardboard box in the middle of the road. Our dad used to wake us up two hours before we went to sleep and we got a cup of cold poison for breakfast.
Etc etc.

Lmao. I just had to acknowledge this, because no one else did... Bob, did you also get hit on the back of the head with a spade and buried in the backyard just before bedtime before you dad woke you up two hours before you went to sleep and fed you maggots for dinner? hehehe ?

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