cain
Its simple what he uses for reverb ..... Fender dual reverb amp. You dont get any better ?
NorioDS
Cool, do you have a link for us to see more about his gear?
cain
AlanRatcliffe
You can always tell which guitarists have roadies and who carries and sets up the stuff themselves. ?
NorioDS
HOLY SHIT!
You see, I might be one of those guys that carries and sets up his own stuff because I like to keep shit simple. I'm hoping an amp, cab and pedal case will cut it for me ?
cain
The thing is keeping it simple gives you a simple sound. Playing around with things allot. Will sometimes give you a much better sound. Even in you pedal board. It depends on what sound you want.
NorioDS
Yup, but what if that's exactly what you want -- a simple sound?
As an example, Satch likes to keep it quite neat and simple. I'm sure his idea of simple is WAY more complicated than mine but it's still a goal to aspire to.
My personal feel (for my own music) is that I won't be happy if I can only achieve something I like with a bunch of external effects, loops and other things I don't understand. That's just me. It's how I live my life because stuff (material things) are so over-rated that I think you can achieve a greater level of happiness with less stuff cluttering your life.
But that's what works for me. It's certainly not going to work for most people out there.
cain
Remeber allot of peoples boards do look simple and thats becos they use midi boards to controll it. Define simple sound. You dont always know how complex artists pedal boards are until you take a closer look.
NorioDS
I'll mess around until I find something I like. At this stage, I think I should be focusing more on my playing than anything else.
AlanRatcliffe
I like to think I've got the best of both worlds. Being criminally lazy, I don't like carrying a lot of gear, but I like a level of complexity that's quite silly. Hence MIDI board, laptop and guitar with two cables. When I'm being really silly, I have the same with an added Roland GI-20 Guitar-MIDI converter and a guitar with three cables. Simple setup and insanely powerful.
NorioDS
Sounds cool Alan ?
I know ask for a lot, but when can we hear something you've recorded? Just so we can sample what you get from your setup? I don't care if it's not the best recording ever, it would add a lot of value, all the same.
Thank you!
cain
Im just stating norio. Most guitar rigs are quite hectic, MIDI is the best option for it to "look" simple. This is not really the fact because allot of preparation goes into getting a sequence thats nice.
Complexity is one of those things you get when you want this to sound different. A way to make your songs/solos/riffs sound different is to use different sounds ( amp, effects, delays etc ).
NorioDS
I understand Francis ? Thanks.
arjunmenon
Hi Norio,
In light of what you said about Satch's setup, i beg to differ. He's actually got a very simple setup (meaning, a setup that anyone emulate). I have seen Satch live in Toronto and India and i've met his techie mike (great guy, lotsa hair,big f$%ker) who told me that Satch prefers a vintage sound but with a very raw edge and that he doesn't use a reverb pedal. As a result, Satch's sound is a result of the following:
JS2000 + Wah-Wah + Boss DS-1 distortion + Fulltone Ultimate Octave + Digitech Whammy WH-1 + Boss CH-1 Super Chorus + Boss DD-2 Delay (@ 350 ms)
Of course, now he endorses Peavey JS Custom amps. And there's a Chandler digital delay in the effects loop and a footswitch for the channels.
Eezzee peezee Japaneezi
NorioDS
Thanks Arjun ?
That's really made my day.
I remember reading on Satch's site that he has a really simple setup. It's one of the things that inspired me and that I respect him most for.
Quick question, what do the Fulltone Ultimate Octave and Digitech Whammy pedals do?
arjunmenon
Woah..ur quick.. ?
Ok, The ultimate octave is manufactured by a company called Fulltone (it retails for about 200 usd, i think) and it acts as a fuzz and an octaver.
The digitech whammy pedal on the other hand is a pitch shifter that has a whole lot of pitch-shifting effects on it.
Speaking of which, if you want a setup that makes you feel lousy, check out John Petrucci's setup or Steve Vai's old setup.
And because i'm a big Petrucci fan, i end up feeling lousy most of the time ? Lol
Also, on a different subject, Alan's post on the best of both worlds is pretty cool.
@ Alan : Way to goo ma man!! Are you conducting any workshops soon?
NorioDS
Thanks Arjun ?
So would it be safe to assume that he used the whammy pedal for "searching"?
What does an octaver do?
I apologise for all the questions but you do appear to have all the answers ? (Between you and Alan, I think we've got some serious guruness on this forum ?)
cain
I dont think satch uses the Boss DS-1 For distortion does he ? I though he used to use the mesa boogie distortion and now the peavey's distortion channels. I think the DS-1 is used as a booster pedal. I might be mistaken tho.
cain
Oh Quote :
Octave, harmonizer and pitch shifter pedals duplicate portions of the incoming guitar signal, but transposed up or down. Octave pedals usually produce overtones one, two or three octaves above the fundamental tone. Pitch shifter pedals can transpose the signal up or down in specific musical intervals. Octaving, harmonizer and pitch shifter pedals are generally considered a special effect, and work best with lead guitar parts.
arjunmenon
Well, although i appreciate the comment on Guruness, i have to admit that i actually know very very little as compared to whats out there in terms of knowledge. To me, Alan is a Guru! He's building his own guitar, how cool is that??!! It would take me quite a while (and the balls) to do something like that, because i don't know the art of guitar (and i say guitar because it is a multi-faceted instrument..if you want it to cry, it will) as intimately as Alan.
Secondly, knowledge becomes greater in potency when you share it... And Francis makes some very interesting points.
And last but not the least, you are a guru too (in ur own way) because you set up this excellent kick ass forum for guitar players to express their opinions and influence, all at the same time.
Thank you...(and if you aren't moved to tears by now..he he)
