High power tube amps (50W+)

aja · 2012-04-01T08:20:22+00:00

So is there any merit these days in getting a 100W tube amp? (no gigs, just having fun at home) There is a specific one I have my eye on and it only comes i...

High power tube amps (50W+)

MikeM

As my last post in this thread..

Remember, 50 watts is very maginally louder than 30 watts, and 100 watts is not even twice as loud as 30 watts.

Good luck Aja!

Nicholas-L

aja wrote:
Nicholas L wrote: Do you like the sound? Do you like the way it looks? Does it scream take me home?
If yes ? then get it irrespective of power rating. My SLO100 is crazy loud, but I love it to bits.
Hmmm, between these two I know which one you are ? ? 8)

But you make a good point! Buying gear should sometimes be done with the heart and not the head....

I'm neither ? ? ... Hahahahaha... but I thought I'd throw a spanner in the works.

ezietsman

MikeM wrote: Good luck Aja!

Yeah, he'll certainly need a good dose of that with that beast...

singemonkey

Interesting article linked in the Guardian's obituary of Jim Marshall:

http://www.booshben.com/2011/12/12/metal-bands-and-marshall-stacks-huh/

bottledtone

Replacing speakers with less efficient ones...... That should kill some volume..... If using say vintage30's which are 99-100dB, put in something with say 93db (jensen have the C12R which is 93,8 but 25watts so would only work in a 4x12). Should (in theory) be the volume of a ...AC30 with blues.

Funny about the engls behind the marshall's!. Didn't Gary Moore use soldano behind his marshalls too?

ezietsman

=

So, a 100 watt Marshall through a 4x12 gets you 125dB a few feet in front of the cab. WTF!!??!

Here's some more readings from them:

Slash Head 100watt: 126
Yngwie Head: 125
Mesa Boogie Transatlantic 25watt: 114
Jet City 100 watt : 124
Fender Hotrod Deluxe : 119
Boogie Mk V: 123

Crazy mofos.

So there is an argument that a 100 watt is not much louder than a 50 and not much louder than a 30 etc. The evidence shows us, while that argument is technically correct, in practise this means all amps above 20-30 watt are basically too damn loud to crank. I'm willing to bet very few people here crank (i.e amp volume knob on 7 or above) their 20 watt amps, and nobody does that with a 100 watt. Because it hurts.

nick

ez wrote:
So there is an argument that a 100 watt is not much louder than a 50 and not much louder than a 30 etc. The evidence shows us, while that argument is technically correct, in practise this means all amps above 20-30 watt are basically too damn loud to crank. I'm willing to bet very few people here crank (i.e amp volume knob on 7 or above) their 20 watt amps, and nobody does that with a 100 watt. Because it hurts.

I never turn my JMP50 up past 3.5 in practice, I have dimed it and everyone covered their ears ?

bottledtone

Because it hurts............ Yes!!! And I'll never build a 120watt high gain monster again.
Never got it past 3 on lead channel.

Hammeron

Sheesh, you guys know too much. Man.

I crank my JCM 900 -100 watt combo {2 x 12" Celestions} at setting 2 on the Pre-amp gain and 8 on the master volume, on the 50w setting. And it cuts thru in the practice space.
Go to 4 on the gain and loud becomes defined.

epictring

My Super-Sonic 60 watt goes 2.5 (gain channel) and 2 (clean channel) in the practice space. At gigs maybe a little bit louder depending on venue - but honestly it's overkill. But it still sounds good :bopping:

I'll probably get something considerably smaller in the near future.

Mr-Smith

I just bought a little Ibanez TSA15H with the TSA112C cab.
This is my first tube amp and still trying to find my way with it. Had a Hiwatt Maxwatt G50R before and it had a nice kick for a solid state. Was also well impressed with my Peavy 158 Rage, for a little 15Watt it really goes the distance! But I think I cranked it once too many, speaker making funny noise and amp jumps between high volume and soft volume and distortion or clean all on its own.

The Ibanez is only 15Watt but the switch down to 5Watt helps a lot in the bedroom.
I know this is a bit off the topic from the Big 100 Watters, but Can someone give me any ideas on the settings for the Ibanez to get max sound without damaging anything? I Like loud with bluesy/rock tone but too scared of pushing it too hard. Or can you share your experince with adding pedals to the little one.
I use a 2000 Strat MIM standard.

AlanRatcliffe

Don't worry too much - proper guitar amps can take more than a little punishment. That's what they are made for. ?

Your Rage is more likely to be a dirty pot, switch or jack socket than any actual damage - Peaveys these days seem to be prone to those problems.

Mr-Smith

Alan Ratcliffe wrote: Don't worry too much - proper guitar amps can take more than a little punishment. That's what they are made for. ?

Your Rage is more likely to be a dirty pot, switch or jack socket than any actual damage - Peaveys these days seem to be prone to those problems.

I returned the Peavy to Marshall`s CBD on three occasions and they just could not get it fixed. Was a bit dissapointed. Anyways, still a nifty little amp( for the first 5 minutes of play untill it starts making troubles)