Tokai SA wrote:
majestikc wrote:
[off topic]
The thread should be called: "The level of singing ability due to massive amounts of hard work and effort on Idols is insanely good...."
I'll give you my login details and you can go change the title. ?
So you reckon all we have to do is practise a few hours a day and work insanely hard and we'll all have these 'magical' voices.
IMO, you have to be born with the talent and or gift to sing like some of these Idols singers...one of G-d's little gifts.
I'm pretty sure it's 100% a learned, practiced skill, if a persons voice naturally sounds "bad" it can be overcome with technique and training, finding the right vocal range etc etc etc, so yes, all anyone has to do is practice a few hours a day, at least 3, for about 10yrs or more and you can sing like that (that'll add up to the whole "10 000 hrs" thing, a lot of people say things like "they've been playing guitar for 10 years but they're not that good, maybe they just have no talent for it" etc, but if they only play guitar for 1hr every year, they've technically only been playing for 10hrs, and the huge space in between is more than enough for them to forget the previous hr so technically they get nowhere.
"Geoff Colvin has written a fascinating study of great achievers from Mozart to Tiger Woods, and he has brilliantly highlighted the fact that great effort equals great success. I agree, and Talent Is Overrated is not only inspiring but enlightening. It''s a terrific read all the way through."-Donald Trump
"Talent Is Overrated is a profoundly important book. With clarity and precision, Geoff Colvin exposes one of the fundamental misconceptions of modern life-that our ability to excel depends on innate qualities. Then, drawing on an array of compelling stories and stacks of research, he reveals the true path to high performance-deliberate practice fueled by intrinsic motivation. This is the rare business book that will both prompt you to think and inspire you to act."-Daniel H. Pink, author of A Whole New Mind
Obviously someone who is tone deaf and is missing most fingers on both hands will never be a great guitar player.
I'm sure if you find out the story of any of the good singers you're hearing on Idols you'll hear of a lot of time, effort and passion that's behind it.
And I dare say, with singing it might come a bit easier and quicker because we all use our voice all day everyday, we all allready have a fair amount of control and know-how when it comes to making sound with our mouth's & vocal chords, not so with drumming or piano or playing guitar, from the start those things are VERY foreign and unnatural so it takes time just to get comfortable with them and build the necessary muscle and tendon strength, neural pathways bla bla bla, with singing the base work has kind of already been taken care of since we were babies.
