Kurt Cobain 2012 Mustang

Jack-Flash-Jr · 2012-01-17T23:18:10+00:00

Maybe it's just because I'm a Gen X'er but this just doesn't seem right... http://iheartguitarblog.com/2012/01/namm-2012-fender-kurt-cobain-mustang.html I mean, it's good looking and all but... not an iota of authenticity imho.

Jack-Flash-Jr

Sebber wrote Clapton didn't design the Stratocaster but he's still got his name on the headstock....

Oh shoot, there, I've really gone and done it now: by mentioning Clapton in the same post I've now inadvertantly compared him and all aspects of his life, career, EVERYTHING, directly to Les Paul AND Kurt Cobain!

Now I'm in REAL trouble!

Don't stress, everybody agrees Clapton never did anything of any worth on a Strat so you're safe ?

Bob-Dubery

Jack Flash Jr wrote Don't stress, everybody agrees Clapton never did anything of any worth on a Strat so you're safe ?

I dunno. 461 Ocean Boulevard has it's moments ("Can't Hold Out" - but was that a strat?) and I'm pretty sure he played the strat on The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking.

Squonk

X-rated Bob wrote
Jack Flash Jr wrote Don't stress, everybody agrees Clapton never did anything of any worth on a Strat so you're safe ?
I dunno. 461 Ocean Boulevard has it's moments ("Can't Hold Out" - but was that a strat?) and I'm pretty sure he played the strat on The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking.

Jack you missed this one. Eric is great on "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking"

Bob-Dubery

Squonk wrote
X-rated Bob wrote
Jack Flash Jr wrote Don't stress, everybody agrees Clapton never did anything of any worth on a Strat so you're safe ?
I dunno. 461 Ocean Boulevard has it's moments ("Can't Hold Out" - but was that a strat?) and I'm pretty sure he played the strat on The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking.

Jack you missed this one. Eric is great on "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking"

Ja. But I agree with the overarching point. EC's best days by far came when he was playing Les Pauls and SGs.

guidothepimmp

Clapton? he that bloke on celebrity chef? didnt know he played a con :-[

chris77

Cobain was a hero to me in what he represented more than what he was. In my mind he was a bit of a messiah, tearing down the walls of image over substance, burning the left over pieces with sincerity and honesty and pissing on the ashes with a big fat dose of emotion and passion. In reality he was a broken down and washed up druggie so far up his own bazoo that he took his own life instead of living it. Would he have approved of a post mortem signature? Who knows. A lifestyle like his.... Really, who knows what he could have become.
Now that might sound bitter, and you know, I probably am a bit. I found a place where I felt like I belonged in the grunge scene. Cobain's suicide changed all that. Probably in a good way mind you, but still... I just can'r place him on a pedestal anymore.

And then we have Clapton. He also went through the whole drugged up and disillusioned phase. Lost a hell of lot in the process, but hey, what do you know, he's still here. Still making music. Still inspiring people. And I love his strat tone btw. Far more than his early stuff. of all the early rock I've heard, imo only 3 got it right. The Stones, Hendrix and Led Zep. The rest I just don't get. Of all my Clapton, the stuff I listen to regularly are his newer stuff - filled with all that stratty goodness. To me his strat tone is right up there with Hendrix (albeit very different) . Tonewise Gilmore is also a monster imo, but he played in Floyd. Again, I tried but Floyd is all WTF to me. A few great songs but as a band, a little too rich for my tastes.

ZarK

My first large gig was at the Curt Cobain Tribute concert in Stellenbosch (1994).

I'm still a fan. RIP...

Squonk

chris77 wrote
And then we have Clapton. He also went through the whole drugged up and disillusioned phase. Lost a hell of lot in the process, but hey, what do you know, he's still here. Still making music. Still inspiring people. And I love his strat tone btw. Far more than his early stuff. of all the early rock I've heard, imo only 3 got it right. The Stones, Hendrix and Led Zep. The rest I just don't get. Of all my Clapton, the stuff I listen to regularly are his newer stuff - filled with all that stratty goodness. To me his strat tone is right up there with Hendrix (albeit very different) . Tonewise Gilmore is also a monster imo, but he played in Floyd. Again, I tried but Floyd is all WTF to me. A few great songs but as a band, a little too rich for my tastes.

Maybe you should have another listen....

Dingwall

Forget about Kurt what were fender thinking when they brought this out:

Graham Coxon signature tele!!

Surely if this is at all justified (and I am struggling here), it is 15 years too late!!

Maybe it is just me and he is still massive in Bulgaria or something.....

Keira-WitherKay

ok , frankly we'll never know if kurt would "approve" of this or NOT ..........

but signature models........ have always been a confusion to me.......... as in i always wondered who wants to own them ........
is it the fans......or the collectors........... cos the serious players or up and coming/wannabee serious players won't ever play on a signature model .......... cos they want to be influenced by their hero's but they don't want to be known as a '................." insert guitar hero name there clone .. of that player ........ and most would surely want their own signature sound....... so to me these signature guitars are made for the "not so serious" musicians and that makes me think it's a marketing ploy and nothing else .........

lastly is there a market for this "2012 kurt Cobain mustang " ............. are there people that seriously want to sound like nirvana enough to buy the signature guitar ............their attitude and message moved a generation ......(btw i'm a huge nirvana fan ) BUT do guitarists in 2012 still want that tone?? which can be achieved easily by most guitars as grunge was a garage band thing with guitarists picking up whatever they had lying around and added that dirty drive and most any guitar was sounding cool if you had the right "grunge attitude and image " in your band

singemonkey

Yeah Keira. That's a whole other can of worms. I have a strong suspicion that it's mostly non-performing players who favour signature models - unless it just happens that someone reaches for a signature model because of some feature that appeals, rather than because of fandom (that's how the Les Paul got it's start). I reckon it's nice for someone who's playing almost exclusively for their own enjoyment to be able to picture being their fave guitar player while playing along with records or whatever.

But as you say, most performers may want the tone or look of their favorite artist's guitar, but would see the danger of trying to establish their own identity with a replica of someone else's particular choice.

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