In the January 2012 issue of the Guitarist magazine they review the new Epiphone Les Paul PlusTop Pro/FX that comes standard with a Floyd Rose. It resembles the Les Paul axcess fairly closely. Usually I am very open to new ideas and believe that everything shoul be pursued to make an instrument more comfortable or closer to your dream one, but for some reason it just does not look right for me. I know that it probably makes sense to a lot of players but if I am honest with myself it does not fit the look of a Les Paul. Why I am this prejudiced in this instance I simply cannot explain. Are there any other opinions on this one? Do you love the idea of a LP with a Floyd or does it make no sense for you as well?
Les Paul with a Floyd Rose: perfect sense or ugly duckling?
any pics perhaps of this hmmmm unholy instrument ? ?
A Les Paul is a traditional guitar and if it gets a tremolo at all, traditionally this is a Bigsby. Whether you fit a Floyd or a Bigsby, you are going to make holes in the instrument that make the process irreversible, which would stop me from putting one on. There are alternatives that use the existing studs.
Then, there is the issue of the nut. You don't want a Floyd without also having a lock nut. Again, irreversible change to instrument.
A Floyd in my mind is more 'in place' on a Jem or similar.
Then, there is the issue of the nut. You don't want a Floyd without also having a lock nut. Again, irreversible change to instrument.
A Floyd in my mind is more 'in place' on a Jem or similar.
pics
whammys can be sooo awesome... and yet I don't find them worth the trouble... the tuning issues and such...
whammys can be sooo awesome... and yet I don't find them worth the trouble... the tuning issues and such...
Doesn't work for me, but whatever turns someone on. Isn't there already a Floyd equipped signature Gibby (Joe Perry or someone)?
This does not even have a carved top or back angled neck, so the Floyd is routed in ?
Whaaaaat? NoooOOOoooo... ouch. Ugly duckling indeed.Gearhead wrote: This does not even have a carved top ?
Thanks for the pics Peachydragon. It seems as if most is in agreement that if you want a Floyd do not get it on a LP. At least I am not alone. Cheers
...or rather put it on a tokai?
I believe Neal Schon(Journey dude) had one made for him?Alan Ratcliffe wrote: Doesn't work for me, but whatever turns someone on. Isn't there already a Floyd equipped signature Gibby (Joe Perry or someone)?
Yes, although I read an interview with him recently in which he stated that he moved to PRS. Alex Lifeson of Rush uses Floyds on his LP's.
Yip...no ways...over my dead Les Paul ! ?Gearhead wrote: A Les Paul is a traditional guitar and if it gets a tremolo at all, traditionally this is a Bigsby. Whether you fit a Floyd or a Bigsby, you are going to make holes in the instrument that make the process irreversible, which would stop me from putting one on. There are alternatives that use the existing studs.
Then, there is the issue of the nut. You don't want a Floyd without also having a lock nut. Again, irreversible change to instrument.
A Floyd in my mind is more 'in place' on a Jem or similar.
Am I crazy, or are people suggesting this is new? There is nothing even remotely new about Les Pauls with locking nut vibrato units. Gibson used to factory install Kahlers in the late '70s and early '80s, and plenty of people retrofitted Floyd Roses when they came out.
Maybe this looks weird if you haven't seen it before, but this is a typical mod for a Les Paul. The looks I have less than zero problem with. The issue for me is that a guitar - any guitar - with a Floyd Rose always seems to sound like any other guitar with a Floyd Rose.
So go for it if you want the looks of a Les Paul. But it's not going to sound very much like a Les Paul IMO.
Maybe this looks weird if you haven't seen it before, but this is a typical mod for a Les Paul. The looks I have less than zero problem with. The issue for me is that a guitar - any guitar - with a Floyd Rose always seems to sound like any other guitar with a Floyd Rose.
So go for it if you want the looks of a Les Paul. But it's not going to sound very much like a Les Paul IMO.
hmm, ive seen a guitarist (cant remember which) had his les pauls equipped with floyds. It may have been the boys from Rush...
maybe not.
maybe not.
I personally would have no issues drilling massive holes in to a Tokai ?Sean wrote: ...or rather put it on a tokai?
Actually, I'd not do it to either, I just felt like being facetious ? and thought I'd beat you to the comment ?nick wrote:I personally would have no issues drilling massive holes in to a Tokai ?Sean wrote: ...or rather put it on a tokai?
?Sean wrote:Actually, I'd not do it to either, I just felt like being facetious ? and thought I'd beat you to the comment ?nick wrote:I personally would have no issues drilling massive holes in to a Tokai ?Sean wrote: ...or rather put it on a tokai?
Gibson players are used to having massive holes in their Les Pauls. So it makes sense ?nick wrote:I personally would have no issues drilling massive holes in to a Tokai ?Sean wrote: ...or rather put it on a tokai?
It may be that your chances of mounting a Floyd on a contemporary Les Paul would flounder for lack of something solid to mount the studs into. OTOH you might find that there's less need for routing than you had bargained for.singemonkey wrote:Gibson players are used to having massive holes in their Les Pauls. So it makes sense ?nick wrote:I personally would have no issues drilling massive holes in to a Tokai ?Sean wrote: ...or rather put it on a tokai?
Alan Ratcliffe wrote: Doesn't work for me, but whatever turns someone on. Isn't there already a Floyd equipped signature Gibby (Joe Perry or someone)?
Pinch wrote: Yes, although I read an interview with him recently in which he stated that he moved to PRS. Alex Lifeson of Rush uses Floyds on his LP's.
Could all of you please escort yourselves outside and shoot yourselves ?guidothepimmp wrote: hmm, ive seen a guitarist (cant remember which) had his les pauls equipped with floyds. It may have been the boys from Rush...
Alex Lifeson has a signature Les Paul Axcess with Floyd and Piezo, he stopped using PRS years ago...
His was just a regular Axcess model.Miemie wrote: I believe Neal Schon(Journey dude) had one made for him?
I highly disagree with this statement...singemonkey wrote: The issue for me is that a guitar - any guitar - with a Floyd Rose always seems to sound like any other guitar with a Floyd Rose.