Studio Build Part II

Skywalker

Here goes with Part II 8)

So after a while the 2 areas made available as rehearsal rooms just wasn't enough and the "stage" area was leaking too much noise outside so we decided to split what I called the main area up into 2.

Goodbye stage and bar ☹

Hello fibreglass and drywall ?

That fibreglass is a pain in the ass to work with - especially in summer when it's hot.

Gloves, mask, long sleeves and pants and safety goggles are a must!!! Trust me. I learnt the hard way :? and so did the guys in the pics ?

Skywalker

Aircon, plugs and lights installed and time for some paint ? Glad I went for the red and not the yellow :?

Next up is putting up the super cool yet super expensive Auralex panels and building the drum risers 8)

Part III to follow during next week ?

Gotta get things organised for practice in a bit.

Watch this space for the build thread of our band's new rehearsal room ?

Rock n Roll 8)

flatfourfan

nice to see some details............so Ive been cruising acoustics 101 and have been told that I need drum risers to isolate the drummer from the rest of the guys, is it that important. I'm planning on having a raised floor, but I plan on doing the whole room.......

Skywalker

Yeah!

The only reason I did the risers in the rooms was to create a "stage" vibe for the guys. Nothing fancy here really. I filled the spaces up with the leftover fibreglass to absorb some of the sound from the drums.

If you can do the whole floating floor thing then go for it!!! I didn't bother because our floor is pretty solid and I've got just about every gap sealed so as little as possible sound can escape the room.

I'm also going to make some home made Grammas and Hoverdeck soon and see how those work 8)

http://www.auralex.com/sound_isolation_gramma/sound_isolation_gramma.asp
http://www.auralex.com/sound_isolation_hoverdeck/sound_isolation_hoverdeck.asp

flatfourfan

nice...........okay, some questions if you odn't mind?

1) what type of fibreglass fill are you using and where you get it from and cost?
2) The auralex stuff looks pretty cool, but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, it's expensive. I was looking at the gramma for under our amps and was thinking what is availible locally at a cheaper option? I was actually looking at building my own from vibraseal (bmw version of dynamat) sandwiched between HDF and do it on some rubber stands.

I think that my room is going to be pretty quite as it is, but I literally want to be able to go in and jam at 4am (if I can't sleep) and it to be dead.

AlanRatcliffe

Nice! Only problem is if bands practice in properly treated rooms, they are going to be thrown by the real-world cruddy acoustics when they first gig. ?

Only a single partition between rooms? Or is the second just not shown in the photos?

The Auralex is expensive. Jeremy Busby recently told me he's been using a local alternative with good results at a fraction of the price of the Auralex.

I would have gone DIY with panel traps (you have the rigid fibreglass and wood already - just need some speaker cloth to make them look respectable). Diffusors I'd buy - too much hassle to make them properly (I use well stocked book cases as my diffusors ?).

flatfourfan

Alan Ratcliffe wrote: Nice! Only problem is if bands practice in properly treated rooms, they are going to be thrown by the real-world cruddy acoustics when they first gig. ?

Only a single partition between rooms? Or is the second just not shown in the photos?

The Auralex is expensive. Jeremy Busby recently told me he's been using a local alternative with good results at a fraction of the price of the Auralex.

I would have gone DIY with panel traps (you have the rigid fibreglass and wood already - just need some speaker cloth to make them look respectable). Diffusors I'd buy - too much hassle to make them properly (I use well stocked book cases as my diffusors ?).

Alan, do you know what the local alternative is to Auralex and price?

I was thinking the same on the panel traps, I looked at the youtube videos and while they look awesome, it would honestly not take much effort to make something just as good locally.

I'm trying to save some serious coin on my room and any advice given would be appreciated.

AlanRatcliffe

Foamrite Acoustics: http://foamrite-acoustics.co.za/ . Note they are the manufacturer, not a retailer. You would have to get via a retailer in your area.

EDIT: Prices seem to be under R200 per panel (depending on type and thickness) so about R800 per m2. Bass traps are R699 per pair (1m length). Not bad at all.

flatfourfan

Alan Ratcliffe wrote: Foamrite Acoustics: http://foamrite-acoustics.co.za/ . Note they are the manufacturer, not a retailer. You would have to get via a retailer in your area.

awesome, I know a retailer for them.muchos gracias.

Skywalker

Flat4... As far as I can remember it's "insulboard" from Sagex. I can't remember exactly what density and thicknesses I ended up using as there was a shortage at the time so I took what I could get :?

http://www.isover.co.za/Default.aspx

Alan... Thanks man ?

The 2 walls aren't shown in the pics. It's basically 2 seperate walls for each room divided by a biggish air gap. Both walls filled with f/glass insulation and double layers of gypsum board on either side.

I know Alec from Truesound quite well http://www.truesoundacoustics.co.za/ and he gave me a good deal on the Auralex but it still was quite pricey ? It's good to know there are some cheaper alternatives available locally.

Only problem is if bands practice in properly treated rooms, they are going to be thrown by the real-world cruddy acoustics when they first gig. Cheesy

We've been having this problem lately so I know exactly what you're talking about. A solution that I can think of is getting your own sound guy (which we've just organised ?) that knows your sound and can tweak accordingly in a live setup. Not so easy as not all live venues arround town have great acoustics but it's a start I guess.

I would have gone DIY with panel traps (you have the rigid fibreglass and wood already - just need some speaker cloth to make them look respectable). Diffusors I'd buy - too much hassle to make them properly (I use well stocked book cases as my diffusors Cheesy).

I went this route for our own "private" room upstairs 8). Pics and info to follow soon!!!