Manfred-Klose
I can't believe what i am reading here, i'm a die hard 80's metal fan, and also a die hard fan of modern metal!!!
If it wasn't for the outlaw 80's , then bands like children of bodom would have such a hardcore image many years later.
If you want to know where you are going, you must know where you have been!!!!!
Go check out some of these bands:
Skidrow
Poison
Warrant
Anthrax(80's,90's)
Pantera(80's,90's)
Firehouse
Ozzy
Judas Priest
and the list goes on forever.....
Squonk
Who did Bon Jovi inspire with their music?
I am not talking just music here, I am talking inspiration and influential.
There obviously will be artist that were untouched by the 80's but in general it was an awful decade.
Manfred-Klose
Who did Bon Jovi inspire with their music?
Probably shania twain or something, dont know?
I think it will fall under poprock category.
Mr-M
Me! -1 on the 80's
There a few good artists that didn't conform to the norm during that time, but by and large the 80's were terrible. Style (really awfully horrible style at that) over substance all the way is the 80's!
Heath
IMO , the 90's did more damage to guitar based main stream music then the 80's , we had a helluva lot more electronic music (techno and the beginnings of rave music) . there were some good bands in the 90's but from what i can recall there wasn't as many as there were in the 80's .
Manfred-Klose
Just reminding everyone that their favourite guitar player could have come from the 80's.
mine is Randy Rhoads, Zakk Wylde, Jason Becker, Yngwie Malmsteen, Slash........
Squonk
Let's change the topic slightly
As opposed to the 50's, 60's, 70's what influence did the 80's have on music as a whole?
Still_Missing
Squonk wrote:
Let's change the topic slightly
As opposed to the 50's, 60's, 70's what influence did the 80's have on music as a whole?
The greatest influence I can think of is that its end strengthened the anti-mainstream movement. Call the 90's "a new hope ?"
As you can see, I don't like the 80's. Wasn't around tho, so I can't judge without some bias against it (... just look at KISS's faces. I'm really sorry for them ?)
LMinnie
Gave birth to the power metal ballad?...
Dunno...maybe ???
Modern rock as we know it.... ???
I think each decade did have a profound effect on the next ,a carry over effect if you wish...
Renesongs
The 70's had it's share of dogs and is often referred to as the decade that good taste forgot.
Abba
Cliff Richards
Ike and Tina Turner
Olivia Newton John
The Bee Gee's
Am I making my point yet?
Squonk
Rene
The 70's were a bit dodgy in the POP stream, but boy did it have some good ROCK acts
Bob-Dubery
I tend to be fairly rude about and allergic to the 80s, but I think it's the case that all eras of music had the good and the bad. Thinking back to the 60s I think there were valid reasons for regarding it as a special time, but there was a lot of crap music too. Most of that crap music has not lived on - except on Radio 702's Solid Gold Sunday - so because we don't remember it or are not reminded of it we tend to think that what has lived on was the totality. Which it wasn't.
The 80s.... I think that a lot of good 60s and 70s bands made bad records in the 80s. But I'm not convinced that's because it was the 80s. Some of them just ran out of steam.
To my mind there are some factors that resulted in some bad music...
1) Growing use of cocaine. I don't want to get into a debate about the pros and cons of narcotics and their use, but I don't think you can make the same defense that you can for some other illegal substances IE that it aids creativity.
2) A financial squeeze in the industry. You had to produce hits and fairly quickly. I think this is why there was this syndrome of making a record sound like a recent big hit. That's why producers had the biiiiiiiig drum sounds, the fiddly percussion on the extremes of the stereo spectrum, the flanged/slap/fretless/all of the above bass guitars, the Mark Knopfler guitar sound (not his fault that everbody thought they could have a hit by making their guitars sound that way)...
3) Less new artistic ground to plough.
4) Because of MTV and the like, how you looked became at least as important as how you sounded and how well you could play.
5) Increasing rationalisation of the US radio stations and thus rationalising of their playlists and a need to fit a record into a pigeon hole labelled "C&W", "Disco", "AOR" etc.
Despite all of that I thought some people who had been around previously made some good records. David Bowie for example. When did U2 make it big? I think of them as an 80s band.
I think too that it was a decade in which popular music and the people making it started looking beyond their navels again and addressed the world situation. Not just things like "We Are The World", but there was an increase in expression of social and political concerns.
I thought there was some great South African music. James Phillips, the whole Voelvry thing, Bright Blue, Tribe After Tribe, Ella Mental, The Genuines, Jennifer Ferguson, Tananas...
Bob-Dubery
Renesongs wrote:
The 70's had it's share of dogs and is often referred to as the decade that good taste forgot.
Abba
Cliff Richards
Ike and Tina Turner
Olivia Newton John
The Bee Gee's
Well most of those were not SEVENTIES acts. Cliff, Ike and Tina, The Bee Gees all made their debuts and their best records in the 60s.
And what was so bad about Abba really? OK... the clothes. But they made great pop music - incredible sounding records and better playing than they are given credit for.
Squonk
Gee Bob
Cant argue with any of that. Are you a journalist? Every one of your answers are so carefully researched and worded like a good music critic.
I really enjoy reading your posts
Squonk
OKAY
I give in, there was some good in the 80's, I think the major difference for me is that I had to endure the 80's.
I was 17 in 1980 and appreciating the leftovers of the late 70's punk movement, maybe I was still too angry to appreciate the 80's music.
To go from "the Clash" to "Climie Fisher" was a big culture shock for me.
Anyway each to his own...
Renesongs
Excellent analysis Bob the only thing I think you overlooked is the growing trend to use cheap electronic synthesisers.
Well most of those were not SEVENTIES acts
They certainly got pumped at us ad neusiam during the 70's remember Saturday night fever . Mind you SA radio was always a bit behind the times. Abba and the Bee Gee best work? Matter of taste - My wife likes the Bee Gees I generally hold my ears and run for cover thank Clapton she doesn't like Abba
bENDER
No real grudge on any decade, not much into the 80's Glam Rock tough.......but that's just my taste.
Orion
bENDER wrote:
No real grudge on any decade, not much into the 80's Glam Rock tough.......but that's just my taste.
Hmm, I think the same about the Glam Rock.
I used to HATE the 80's, until I discovered thrash metal. I've seen Metallica and Slayer mentioned in this thread, but no one likes Megadeth!? Say it isnt so! I love Megadeth.
Other than thrash though, I didnt like the 80s at all ?
Manfred-Klose
Megadeth.
Mustaine is the best, i'm a die hard megadeth fan!!!!
Bob-Dubery
Squonk wrote:
Gee Bob
Cant argue with any of that. Are you a journalist? Every one of your answers are so carefully researched and worded like a good music critic.
No. I just have opinions. People should have opinions - though hopefully considered opinions.
Squonk wrote:
I really enjoy reading your posts
Thanks ?
