I Want to be a rockstar

Garren · 2011-07-26T21:55:20+00:00

Hey guys, so school is really boring if any of you guys remember, I think the only thing that gets me through is fantasizing about being a rockstar and roc...

I Want to be a rockstar

MikeM

Hahah, that movie epitomizes what I don't want in life!

Garren

Hahah, that movie epitomizes what I don't want in life!

Lol this shows the difference in the thought process of an immature teenager
and a sensible person ?

IceCreamMan

Averatu wrote: I make a point of NOT working with people who want to be rock stars, because they are generally (yes, a generalization) only in it for above mentioned sex and drugs and booze. I prefer associating with people who do it for the love of music, because, they're not sh!tfaced at rehearsals and gigs, dont bring along their skanks, dont get arrested for possession of narcotics(which is a big problem if you ever wish to acquire a visa to go to Japan or the States), and they can generally apply their chosen trade much more consistently and competently.
Most recent case in point:
http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=69900

i think everyone does if for the love of music .... cant see the greats being great without loving music however , with greatness comes fringe benefits ....i would enjoy them to the full.

the life of a rock star is beyond the realms of society and "normalness". they can do what they want when they want for they have the means to do so...this heady freedom sometimes has no brakes esp for young ppl from poor backgrounds ..... .

if i were a rock star i cetainly would live outside the boundaries of normalness and would partake of some of the benefits (cept the ladies i is married mind) but i certainly would relish the freedom it offered me...i suspect most ppl would . it could be argued (succesfully i suspect) that their experiences assist with their creativeness ...certainly so the case in many rockstars past and present.

actually i was partaking even though i was not a rockstar until a couple of years ago anyway .... :-[ but dont tell my ma

Averatu

IceCreamMan wrote:
Averatu wrote: I make a point of NOT working with people who want to be rock stars, because they are generally (yes, a generalization) only in it for above mentioned sex and drugs and booze. I prefer associating with people who do it for the love of music, because, they're not sh!tfaced at rehearsals and gigs, dont bring along their skanks, dont get arrested for possession of narcotics(which is a big problem if you ever wish to acquire a visa to go to Japan or the States), and they can generally apply their chosen trade much more consistently and competently.
Most recent case in point:
http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=69900
i think everyone does if for the love of music .... cant see the greats being great without loving music however , with greatness comes fringe benefits ....i would enjoy them to the full.

the life of a rock star is beyond the realms of society and "normalness". they can do what they want when they want for they have the means to do so...this heady freedom sometimes has no brakes esp for young ppl from poor backgrounds ..... .

if i were a rock star i cetainly would live outside the boundaries of normalness and would partake of some of the benefits (cept the ladies i is married mind) but i certainly would relish the freedom it offered me...i suspect most ppl would . it could be argued (succesfully i suspect) that their experiences assist with their creativeness ...certainly so the case in many rockstars past and present.

actually i was partaking even though i was not a rockstar until a couple of years ago anyway .... :-[ but dont tell my ma

That is one big myth:
-you have no more freedom than anyone else, in fact, because people recognize you, its exactly the opposite.
-the biggest reason I think 'rock stars' act out in strange ways is boredom. Our one bassist in the 90's once ate a whole magazine because he got annoyed with it after 2 weeks on the road. Try touring for 6 months.
-The big rock bands are the ones who work the hardest I'm afraid.
-The rock star persona is for show, because that's what the fans expect.
-The producer Fredrik Nordström stated that the bands who walk into his studio with groupies and cases of bear are the bands that put out mediocre albums that no one remembers.

Garren

Its starting to become more and more clear that the whole
rockstar dream thing isn't very real ☹

Well I guess I could always drink loads of whiskey, get
a girl to leave me for another man and become an oldschool blues
guy ? haha jj ?

MIKA-the-better-one

Or dont adhere to any Stereotypical Cliches and just be yourself

Garren

Or dont adhere to any Stereotypical Cliches and just be yourself

Yeah definitely man couldn't agree more,
All of this is kinda just a for fun joke type thing though, ?

Super off topic but kind of to do with being yourself,
I remember last term we had a concert thing at school and I was using
my bassman and the teacher in charged asked me to turn it down... I've
never been so offended in my life :-[
Haha trying to explain that a valve amp sounds better loud to a non guitarist
doesn't seem to go anywhere does it? ?

MIKA-the-better-one

I hated it so much, being tild to turn down..... I used to just flat out refuse and tell them to bring all other levels up...... hahah thats about the most rockstar thing I have ever done...
I dont know about a school but in a club when its a show with my band, my material, "my art" The sound guys must comply with my settings.

Try turn your bassman to the side away from the crowd in the future I found aiming it off somewhere isolated helped keep complaints down.... ?

Garren

Try turn your bassman to the side away from the crowd in the future I found aiming it off somewhere isolated helped keep complaints down....

I did exactly that ? I remembered seeing Dan Patlansky do that at a gig, But i also stuck a guitar case
open in front of it as a sort of shield thing, and it worked phenomenally ?

Yeah playing in the school hall can be fun, especially when your school has a 32 channel allen & heath mixer
and fully set up PA and wedge monitors on stage ?
We mic'd everything up and it was beautiful, the best part is the whole crowd got such a fright when
we started playing because we were so much louder than the usual acoustic guitar and piano stuff ?

singemonkey

Hey. Put some real effort into your playing and avoid styles that are followed almost exclusively by men (*coughprogressivemetalcough* ? ), and you can get a small taste of that lifestyle anywhere rock 'n roll is enjoyed. I certainly have heard stories from South Africans who've experienced some of that within our borders.

Just bear in mind, most of what you hear is the survivors reflecting back on how they used to live - in much the same way as a lot of people get nostalgic about school once they're out of it. The main reason those rockers party so much on tour is that they're bored out of their skulls. They'll do anything, including crazy dangerous things that get lots of them killed or condemns them to a life on the streets - simply to relieve that boredom.

So all that stuff is often an answer to the fact that, outside your 2 hours on stage every other day - you're just insanely bored all the time. Bonzo from Zeppelin drank himself literally to death because he hated being away from his family so much. He also turned from a pleasant guy into a total thug, who'd beat the crap out of people, including fans, for no reason at all. Jimmy Page flew up high as an incredibly talented guitar player, producer, and rock 'n roll visionary... before heroine took him into such a steep dive that he arguably has done nothing of any interest (besides giving nostalgic interviews) since 1976.

Averatu

singemonkey wrote: Hey. Put some real effort into your playing and avoid styles that are followed almost exclusively by men (*coughprogressivemetalcough* ? ), and you can get a small taste of that lifestyle anywhere rock 'n roll is enjoyed. I certainly have heard stories from South Africans who've experienced some of that within our borders.

Just bear in mind, most of what you hear is the survivors reflecting back on how they used to live - in much the same way as a lot of people get nostalgic about school once they're out of it. The main reason those rockers party so much on tour is that they're bored out of their skulls. They'll do anything, including crazy dangerous things that get lots of them killed or condemns them to a life on the streets - simply to relieve that boredom.

So all that stuff is often an answer to the fact that, outside your 2 hours on stage every other day - you're just insanely bored all the time. Bonzo from Zeppelin drank himself literally to death because he hated being away from his family so much. He also turned from a pleasant guy into a total thug, who'd beat the crap out of people, including fans, for no reason at all. Jimmy Page flew up high as an incredibly talented guitar player, producer, and rock 'n roll visionary... before heroine took him into such a steep dive that he arguably has done nothing of any interest (besides giving nostalgic interviews) since 1976.

You need a lozenge there mate?

symbolofmylife

Someone here already said that most of the people on this forum has that dream in some way or form.

But I remember when I just left school about 11 years ago that dream was very much alive and well with me. Basically all me and my group of pals ever spoke of was Metallica-this and Guns 'n Roses-that. Ok, Guns is probably the poorest example due to their crash-&-burn history but Metallica is still alive and well-ish.

It's just funny now when we do play gigs to see the odd band here and there that show up and think they are superstars. You're playing a gig that will be forgotten in a week's time and by no means will people talk about it for months and years to come.

Guitar riffs that changed the world is in my opinion also over and will never be seen again. The last I can remember was Thunderstruck and some things off Metallica's "Black" album. But that's just me.

Although I still play in a band today, I do it for the fun you have with friends and the 45 minutes on stage you get to act like Hetfield or whatever, and to play some new music to people, even if it's you crappy originals.

The chances of anybody, especially in South Africa making it with their unique music is very slim. So as soon as you make peace with that and embrace your gigging with that in mind, and with the focus of having fun, being a rock star goes out the window.

Jack-Flash-Jr

symbolofmylife wrote: Someone here already said that most of the people on this forum has that dream in some way or form.

But I remember when I just left school about 11 years ago that dream was very much alive and well with me. Basically all me and my group of pals ever spoke of was Metallica-this and Guns 'n Roses-that. Ok, Guns is probably the poorest example due to their crash-&-burn history but Metallica is still alive and well-ish.

It's just funny now when we do play gigs to see the odd band here and there that show up and think they are superstars. You're playing a gig that will be forgotten in a week's time and by no means will people talk about it for months and years to come.

Guitar riffs that changed the world is in my opinion also over and will never be seen again. The last I can remember was Thunderstruck and some things off Metallica's "Black" album. But that's just me.

Although I still play in a band today, I do it for the fun you have with friends and the 45 minutes on stage you get to act like Hetfield or whatever, and to play some new music to people, even if it's you crappy originals.

The chances of anybody, especially in South Africa making it with their unique music is very slim. So as soon as you make peace with that and embrace your gigging with that in mind, and with the focus of having fun, being a rock star goes out the window.

You are a rock star ?

singemonkey

Jack Flash Jr wrote: You are a rock star ?

+1 Once you've got up onto a stage that's 50% of it right there. You've stepped so far beyond what most people experience. Once you're enjoying yourself and people are partying to what you're playing, that's 80%. The blow and the blowjobs and the stadiums full of people are only part of the last 20%.

The best part of being a rock star, from what they all say, is rocking out with your audience. And you don't have to be Metallica to do that.

IceCreamMan

singemonkey wrote:
Jack Flash Jr wrote: You are a rock star ?
+1 Once you've got up onto a stage that's 50% of it right there. You've stepped so far beyond what most people experience. Once you're enjoying yourself and people are partying to what you're playing, that's 80%. The blow and the blowjobs and the stadiums full of people are only part of the last 20%.

er thats like just your opinion man ?

but one thing i am going to agree with cos i am now at the initial steps , gigging is a rush of note ,the adrenalin rush is the biggest i have ever experienced ...putting oneself out there ,very very few ppl do that. this has been a personal triumph for me of huge proporions , i have conquered a fear few ppl understand let along venture to do....

domhatch

i think i'm gonna go with icm on this one. i've only been up there two or three times, and only two or three other instances in my life gave me the same rush. no drugs or sex involved in any of them... ?

Garren

Hmmmm maybe we should just classify the rush from gigging as a sort of sex/drug hybrid ?

domhatch

that would imply some sort of build up to a high, or climax if you will, followed by a denouement lasting anywhere from minutes to days. yeah, i think i could roll with that thought...

nick_D01

hey gents

guys for me- i just wanna be able to play my guitar. its nice to get feedback and people lovin your music but the rest is just the world's *&^%$ trip man.

Garren

Its seems that this is one of those childhood dreams,
Like wanting to be a *insert undesirable profession here*
You generally end up growing up a bit and realising that
its not quite as cool as it previously seemed :-[

Hopefully my exclusion of a specific profession will prevent
anyone from getting offended ?