teleplayer
Hi Guys, I've been having a few problems with Guitar Rig 3 and ASIO4ALL.. I have the standard sound card in my laptop and with reason ASIO4ALL works fine, no noticeable latency...
When I use ASIO4ALL with guitar rig I get a horrible whine sound the whole time, any suggestions or am I expecting too much from ASIO4ALL? I use guitar rig with a digidesign 002 and it's perfect, but too big to put in my laptop bag of course..
Alan, maybe u have some experience with this?
dee
Ok, some questions to help figure this out:
* Are you plugging directly into the sound card, meaning no DI Box?
* And are you plugged into the microphone socket or the line in?
* What happens when you use another driver other than Asio4All?
AlanRatcliffe
Standard soundcard? Try different sampling rates and bit depths in the driver. You've probably got it set to 48K and 20 or 24 bit and some soundcards which claim to be able to handle this actually downsample to 44.1KHz, 16 bit - and the extra processing causes interference. Chances are if you set to 44.1KHz, 16 bit the problem will go away.
Renesongs
+1 Alan I have had the same problem with GR3, Asio4all and different laptops, Asio4all tends to put more load on the the CPU and laptop memory than the generic soundcard drivers .At 44.1Khz by 16 bit your problems should be sorted otherwise your laptop is just not up to it and would be a good idea to get a usb soundcard.
teleplayer
I was considering getting a USB sound card, but would that not give me latency issues? And card suggestions?
AlanRatcliffe
How does 2.5ms latency sound? That's what I'm getting with an Edirol UA-25. M-Audio also make good interfaces suitable for Guitar Rig.
teleplayer
That's a little outta my price range, i'm just wanting this to practice in my room, got a rig for performance...
I was looking at the Behringer UCG102 Guitar Link Guitar-to-USB, any thoughts?
AlanRatcliffe
That should work. Nothing fancy of course, but as long as it's made to plug a guitar in one end and the other into your PC...
teleplayer
Thanks for the help guys, laptop's gone in for repairs, had a faulty sound card, may have been the source of all my problems.. Unfortunatly gonna take 2 weeks for them to get my mother board in, but hey, it's a free repair..
Will let u know if i have success
CornFlakes
“While we on this subject” I have a very stupid question to ask…
When you guys record your guitar tracks with say Guitar Rig, do you leave the VST on while recording or off and add the effect later?
Because there is a bit of an latency and the bpm that you are following might confuse you?
AlanRatcliffe
I do it a little differently from most as my GR3 PC is a different dedicated machine. I get low latency from that machine, so just monitor the audio outs and I take a digital out directly to the DAW and print the guitar tone while tracking (also I don't use reverbs in GR while tracking - adding those later wit other plugs).
If I were doing it the standard way, I'd monitor the tone via the GR plugin as long as latency wasn't too bad. I'm getting 2.5ms on GR and 2.9 on the DAW (although with a really dense arrangement I may increase the latency toward the end of the recording if it starts getting glitchy).
Renesongs
I like to monitor The GR3 sound when I record so I can hear the sustain and other artefacts but I record the dry signal into Reaper in cause I change my mind as to the tone I want. My Desktop has a Maya 44 sound card that gets down 1.5ms latency so that's cool. My HP laptop sound card was over 20ms latency and went down to about 12ms with Asio4All, so I really bought the Guitar RK3 pedal to be the sound card for my laptop (reports 6ms latency but sounds like nothing.)
deanBailey
Yeah it is preferred that you always monitor the signal as close to how you'd like it to sound as possible. You're should not only try to nail perfect takes on time but seeing that music is something you feel as well as hear, you perform differently with different tones.
If your tone is weaker you'll pick hard or vice versa.
Plus once you do manage to get a tone you're happy with, you just enjoy it more when tracking.
But low latency on your Scard will make it easier.
teleplayer
K, all problems solved, I got a M-Audio "Jamlab"
Works really really well, no noticable latency and only set me back a few hundred
