8-String!

Demigod · 2011-06-14T08:17:33+00:00

So I finally feel that i am ready to move on to 8-string. Would get the RG2228 but unfortunately that is about R12000 out of my price range. Any suggestions?

8-String!

5mjacbyr

^Multiscales FTW!

Just a heads up about the rga8, although it may have the same bridge as the 2228, there have been a number of cases where the mounting screw has pulled straight out of the body. Have a look over on the other forum I mentioned earlier for the horror picstories.

Demigod

What ???
Didnt know that...thx ?
Im very tempted to buy an agile but ibanez has caught my eye hehehe. The schecter helraiser8 also looks very nice, and would very well be nice if not for the scale length.
So im pretty much where i was a few weeks ago once more :-\
Oh, btw im also registered at sevenstring.org

Malkav

5mjacbyr wrote: Just a heads up about the rga8, although it may have the same bridge as the 2228, there have been a number of cases where the mounting screw has pulled straight out of the body. Have a look over on the other forum I mentioned earlier for the horror picstories.

This problem with the RGA8s has been sorted out, it was only an issue with the first batch. Anything made 2010 and later will not have this issue, also it turns out that it was just because the mounting hole in the body wasn't deep enough. If you got one with an 09 serial number you could just take it to a tech and have the recess looked at, an easy way to tell is that the new ones have bevelling on the sides of their horns to make upper fret access better.

5mjacbyr wrote: ^Multiscales FTW!

Agreed, it's the best way to keep that mega tight feeling on the lows and the singing mid range on the highs.

LooneyAtTheGate

I was at Music Connection in jozi yesterday (thanks Chad) and they had a second-hand RGA8 for R8000. I think its the old kind though.
The previous owner had modified it with rampant useless pearl inlays everywhere though. ???

My RGA8's bridge is fine, but the nut metal seems a bit soft, i might have to replace that.

Demigod

Holy shitz R8000 2nd hand?
Whats the price of a new one then?

LooneyAtTheGate

I got mine for 6K after haggling between bothners and marshall in cape town. That was in january.

Demigod

Well then, that seems a lot more reasonable thanks. Hows the pickups on it?

Malkav

Demigod wrote: Holy shitz R8000 2nd hand?
Whats the price of a new one then?

New one's are literally that price full retail, as Looney says HAGGLE and you can pick one up cheaper. That one was just so expensive because some idiot had schecterofied it.

Demigod wrote: Well then, that seems a lot more reasonable thanks. Hows the pickups on it?

I personally hate all Ibanez stock pickups, they always sound weak and lifeless to me, and this is Ibanez making an active pickup...I'll let your imagination simply run wild with that ? They put a friggin mid scoop switch on it... ???

Demigod

Ok so ive done some calculations and it appears that i can get the RGA8 and later on other pickups for cheaper than getting an agile. (R6700 for the RGA8, im gonna haggle a bit ?)
Anyone thinks this is a bad idea? (The stock pickups cant be unusable can it?) ?

Malkav

Demigod wrote: Anyone thinks this is a bad idea? (The stock pickups cant be unusable can it?) ?

I think it's a great idea, however IMO the specs of the Agile are a little better for the cash. Looney gets good results out of the stock pickups, but in the end the pickup swop will make an enormous difference.

Demigod

I'm definitely going to do a pickup swap, whether i get an agile or ibanez. And for the price the RGA actually works out cheaper ?

LooneyAtTheGate

Just get anything and learn to play it. There's only a few choices out there so they probably haven't made the 'perfect' 8-string yet.
You can customize it or get a better one some day. That is if you're not broke from wasting all ur hours playing 8-string! ?

@CHad Glad u like my tone results despite the pickups ?

G-Man

You guys got me curious about 8 strings so I took a look at take2.co.za and found these...

http://more.take2.co.za/moreusa-schecter-2022-8-strings-electric-guitar-gloss-black-b0046lvaai.html

or perhaps a walnut stain?

http://more.take2.co.za/moreusa-schecter-omen-8-electric-guitar-walnut-satin-b004iebthm.html

8 string Schecters for R4800 with shipping... (If I understand their import process correctly, I've asked in a couple threads, you'll just have to pay for the local shipping to your location from what I have gathered from take2's emails as well.)

Demigod

damn they look real nice but unfortunately they only have 26.5" scales ☹

Demigod

Chad Adam Browne wrote:
The bridge is actually the same as used on the prestige model but the nut is lower quality, you can purchase the prestige Gotoh replacement nut here: http://www.ibanezrules.com/parts.htm#Nuts They are Item: 2LN00AA001

LOL is there a specific reason the nut is more expensive than a EMG 808? 0_o

Demigod

Awesome! I got my Ibanez RGA8 on monday and its absolutely gorgeous! (Was doubtfull at first on whether the pickups suck, but after you get it, you really realise it lol.)
My only pain is the 24th frett access but np :-[

Malkav

Demigod wrote: Awesome! I got my Ibanez RGA8 on monday and its absolutely gorgeous! (Was doubtfull at first on whether the pickups suck, but after you get it, you really realise it lol.)

Congratulations dude!

We look forward to seeing the NGD ?

Demigod wrote: My only pain is the 24th frett access but np :-[

If yours is one of the newer models, then you should have a bit of beveling in the actual cutaways to make the access there a bit better, the original run of these didn't have the bevels ☹

Demigod wrote:
Chad Adam Browne wrote: The bridge is actually the same as used on the prestige model but the nut is lower quality, you can purchase the prestige Gotoh replacement nut here: http://www.ibanezrules.com/parts.htm#Nuts They are Item: 2LN00AA001
LOL is there a specific reason the nut is more expensive than a EMG 808? 0_o

Well it is a custom manufactured 8 string locking nut? Made of really good metals as well, these sorts of things cost more to get made when you're doing them in smaller batches.

Demigod

My RGA8 is the 2010 model (the ones with the bridge problem fixed) and as you say doesn't have cutouts.
But I'm thinking of modding it a little by using the RG2228's joint as a guidline to make way for better access. (The cafo sweep is really not fun to play at all if your hand constantly hits the body >☹)
So i'm thinking of cutting away a chuck from the horn...
Only thing is I'm worried that it will comprimise the strength of the guitar and neck joint (and if the neck will start flexing)
from this:

To this :

I should probably post this in the mods thread though....

Malkav

Before doing that why not try beveling in the bottom cutaway? The way they do it on the current model, If it feels good then you'll have kept most of the structural integrity, if it doesn't well then hey you were gonna cut it away anyway...

Demigod

Good point :-[
I'll do that and abaout paint, how many layers and of what should i apply?
And the NGD will come shortly ?