How many members sing?

PeteM · 2011-06-01T20:23:07+00:00

This is a follow-up to D-man's thread who recently asked about the need for a singing coach. What I would like to know is how many of you guys sing and pla...

How many members sing?

Svengali

singemonkey wrote: A sideline: I noticed the other day how truly spectacular Rod Stewart's voice is. What a pity he spent his career singing utter crap.

&B style and probably couldn't do all the stuff I do. But in terms of actual vocal control, they leave me in their dust.

Rod Stewart just ended his career singing crap. He started out as a rocker, tried and true.
Another one who didn't follow up on early promise (thinking Yellow Brick Road) is - dare I say it - that blighter, Elton John.

Squonk

singemonkey wrote: ideline: I noticed the other day how truly spectacular Rod Stewart's voice is. What a pity he spent his career singing utter crap.

I think he started off quite well. Have you ever listened to the Albums; Gasoline Alley, Every Picture tells a Story, Never a Dull Moment
I think it's a bit harsh to call it "utter crap" , to me this would be an ignorant comment.

singemonkey

Squonk wrote:
singemonkey wrote: ideline: I noticed the other day how truly spectacular Rod Stewart's voice is. What a pity he spent his career singing utter crap.

I think he started off quite well. Have you ever listened to the Albums; Gasoline Alley, Every Picture tells a Story, Never a Dull Moment
I think it's a bit harsh to call it "utter crap" , to me this would be an ignorant comment.

I calls it like ah seez it, Squonkster ?

strataxe

Sing??? ? ? ... thats why I play guitar.

killafo

I know my limits........ ?

Norman86

ja... i dont know about singing...
i like to sing on my own, but dont like to in front of people... then it goes all off key and such!
used to sing in the choir... till my voice broke, then stopped singing in front of people!
sounds like a common thing for guys though?! lol!

arjunmenon

+1. Would be great to learn stuff.
I only do backing vocals in our worship band

Jack-Flash-Jr

Arjun Menon wrote: +1. Would be great to learn stuff.
I only do backing vocals in our worship band

Southern gospel choir is one of my favourite genres... What I'd like to learn is how not to try match Singe's soprano! i.e. harmony in different octaves. I tend to try sound the same...

PeteM

Okay, it seems like there is some interest.
Give me a bit of time to get my shit together and I will start posting lessons/exercises to get you started as well as some info about your larynx and what goes on there.

arjunmenon

Jack Flash Jr wrote:
Arjun Menon wrote: +1. Would be great to learn stuff.
I only do backing vocals in our worship band
Southern gospel choir is one of my favourite genres... What I'd like to learn is how not to try match Singe's soprano! i.e. harmony in different octaves. I tend to try sound the same...

I'm guessing you're talking about the Southern Baptist gospel style. I totally dig it as well. We've been working on an arrangement of Amazing Grace (chords - Dmaj7/Bm7/Em7/A7) but the vocal harmony bits are incredibly difficult for my untrained voice. I battle with the don't-sing-the-same-as-the-singer thing as well. It would be great to learn more on developing that skill.

Of late, our band warms up singing the last bit of Message in a bottle (the sendin' out an SOS bit) and we've tried a few scale based exercises as well (i.e. one person singing the solfege in Ionian, the second in Dorian, the third in Phrygian etc.) and we pick which one sounds the best and use that.
We've kept it pretty simple for now (singing in major or minor 3rds and 5ths), but i'm going to rock the boat a little this evening by suggesting 7ths.
Will let you guys know how that goes ?

Jack-Flash-Jr

Arjun Menon wrote:
Jack Flash Jr wrote:
Arjun Menon wrote: +1. Would be great to learn stuff.
I only do backing vocals in our worship band
Southern gospel choir is one of my favourite genres... What I'd like to learn is how not to try match Singe's soprano! i.e. harmony in different octaves. I tend to try sound the same...
I'm guessing you're talking about the Southern Baptist gospel style. I totally dig it as well. We've been working on an arrangement of Amazing Grace (chords - Dmaj7/Bm7/Em7/A7) but the vocal harmony bits are incredibly difficult for my untrained voice. I battle with the don't-sing-the-same-as-the-singer thing as well. It would be great to learn more on developing that skill.

Of late, our band warms up singing the last bit of Message in a bottle (the sendin' out an SOS bit) and we've tried a few scale based exercises as well (i.e. one person singing the solfege in Ionian, the second in Dorian, the third in Phrygian etc.) and we pick which one sounds the best and use that.
We've kept it pretty simple for now (singing in major or minor 3rds and 5ths), but i'm going to rock the boat a little this evening by suggesting 7ths.
Will let you guys know how that goes ?

singemonkey

Norman86 wrote: ja... i dont know about singing...
i like to sing on my own, but dont like to in front of people... then it goes all off key and such!
used to sing in the choir... till my voice broke

Weird thing about this. Your voice breaking doesn't do anything to your ability to sing except for during the transitional phase (when everyone gets kicked out of choir and then doesn't go back 'cos it seems kind sissy). Singing is a skill, not a physical capability. If you could sing in a high wee voice, you'll be able to sing now - only in your deep, gruff, manly voice. Savvy?

It definitely extends your versatility as a musician, so if you have the skill, it's worth developing the confidence to use it at the same time you develop your guitar playing abilities.

Riaan-Combrink

I'm also untrained, and share vocal duties in our duo. So eager to get some insight and tips. Great idea this vox board!

arjunmenon

Jack Flash Jr wrote:
Arjun Menon wrote:
Jack Flash Jr wrote:
Arjun Menon wrote: +1. Would be great to learn stuff.
I only do backing vocals in our worship band
Southern gospel choir is one of my favourite genres... What I'd like to learn is how not to try match Singe's soprano! i.e. harmony in different octaves. I tend to try sound the same...
I'm guessing you're talking about the Southern Baptist gospel style. I totally dig it as well. We've been working on an arrangement of Amazing Grace (chords - Dmaj7/Bm7/Em7/A7) but the vocal harmony bits are incredibly difficult for my untrained voice. I battle with the don't-sing-the-same-as-the-singer thing as well. It would be great to learn more on developing that skill.

Of late, our band warms up singing the last bit of Message in a bottle (the sendin' out an SOS bit) and we've tried a few scale based exercises as well (i.e. one person singing the solfege in Ionian, the second in Dorian, the third in Phrygian etc.) and we pick which one sounds the best and use that.
We've kept it pretty simple for now (singing in major or minor 3rds and 5ths), but i'm going to rock the boat a little this evening by suggesting 7ths.
Will let you guys know how that goes ?
?

? As can be imagined, it didn't go too well

Malkav

Seventhson wrote: When I sing I sound like dave mustiane ?

That's not singing ?

Renesongs

I took up singing a bit in the last couple of years I think a bit like Tom Waits, Billy Gibbon, Joe Cocker and Leonard Cohen all at once trying to impersonate Bob Dylan. ☹

Riaan-Combrink

Renesongs wrote: I took up singing a bit in the last couple of years I think a bit like Tom Waits, Billy Gibbon, Joe Cocker and Leonard Cohen all at once trying to impersonate Bob Dylan. ☹

RAOFL (is that the right sequence)???

I've heard you sing - you're being too modest. Cool blues-type vox. Sounds soaked in Jim Beam bourbon! 8) Or si that Windhoek Lager?

PeteM

Hi everybody. I haven't forgotten about the singing tips.

I don't want to get things wrong so I have been doing a lot of research over the weekend. Certain aspects about the voice need to be explained up front and I don't want to write mounds of stuff that no-one will read... that's a pointless exercise... so I'm finding it quite difficult to edit down a lot of the information I've gleaned. I find it's easier to demonstrate/discuss in person. Anyway, I'll soldier on and should have something soon.

A positive thing to come out of this is that all this research is helping me a helluva lot in not only formulating a comprehensive study programme for potential one-on-one students but also to enhance my own endeavors with my singing. No study ever goes to waste hey? ?

Squonk

excellent stuff Pete. The open Mic at TJ's is just 3 weeks away ?

Jack-Flash-Jr

Thanks Pete... bated breath... unless bating is the wrong way of doing it ?