Is Jimi hendrix

Seventhson

Is Jimi hendrix still the greatest guitar player?

I personally think yes he is very very good but what about all the guitarists who are very very very good. Is christ broderick or the other shredders who you been posting better than him?

If jimi hendrix was born in the 70s and started a band in 80s would he be shred guitarist? would he still be the father of awesome playing.

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singemonkey

It was much easier for him to improvise in the '60's. Far less had been done with the electric guitar at that point.

But Hendrix still came from a different background to most shredders. Vernon Reid struck me as an '80s Hendrix a little. It was a person, circumstances, a time, and a place. He did astonishing things while he was still in his twenties. But it would be foolish to imagine it was destined to be that way. He played the hand he was dealt.

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Seventhson

singemonkey wrote: It was much easier for him to improvise in the '60's. Far less had been done with the electric guitar at that point.

But Hendrix still came from a different background to most shredders. Vernon Reid struck me as an '80s Hendrix a little. It was a person, circumstances, a time, and a place. He did astonishing things while he was still in his twenties. But it would be foolish to imagine it was destined to be that way. He played the hand he was dealt.

That is what I said to my mom and her hippie friend(who met him ???)

Yes at the time he was awesome but todays standards not so(Just my opinion)There are amazing guitarists today. I guess it is easier to learn to play in todays time than his time.

I respect for what he did and that jazz?

Vick

Look,I listen to a lot of hendrix,I'm 20 years old,so he was gone way before my time,but I listen to him so often and when I do I enjoy it, I don't give the music I listen to a handicap advantage because its old or whatever. What I'm trying to say, is that, its been so long and his music is still good...its withstood the test of time...

In the technicality category he has been surpassed by many guitarists...

But consider how musically his work is,his arrangements are far superior and there are very few guitarists that can match that... ?

And I doubt he would ever really have been a shredder, expression was to important to the guy...I think he would actually ended up as a noise rock\shoegaze'ish rock n roll thingy if he was borne latter...but that's just speculation,the guy might have not even been a guitarist if he was born latter....

Bob-Dubery

There is no best. How do you compare Segovia to Hendrix and Hendrix to Django and Django to Duane Allman etc etc. Even in rock nobody has it all, the great guys all have their signature things that they do well or particular areas in which they are strong, Nobody does everything to an unmatchable (or currently unmatched) degree.

Which isn't to say that Hendrix wasn't a giant - he was, and you should enjoy and marvel at what he left behind.

Whenever you discuss greats of a earlier ages you have the potential to run into a problem because you don't see them in the context of their times - what had come before and what things looked like after they did whatever they did. Hendrix upped the bar and changed the game in his time as the Beatles, Elvis and Dylan had. When you look back now rather than watch the whole thing unfold it gets harder to understand the impact these guys had and the changes they wrought. It gets especially hard for the 2nd half of the 60s when things changed at a dizzying rate.

Jack-Flash-Jr

Was he responsible for an extremely large portion of the dizzying rate of evolution of the guitar? More so than anyone else? Yes = greatest. That's as close to an objective measure I think one can get.
But the yes is subjective in the end, so personally, on a personal note, personally I get a lot more personal goosebumps in one of his songs than most other guitarists COMBINED. But that's personal. A LOT of other guitarists seem to feel that way too though... see any greatest ever poll. I think that's what counts.

vic

X-rated Bob wrote: There is no best. How do you compare Segovia to Hendrix and Hendrix to Django and Django to Duane Allman etc etc. Even in rock nobody has it all, the great guys all have their signature things that they do well or particular areas in which they are strong, Nobody does everything to an unmatchable (or currently unmatched) degree.

Which isn't to say that Hendrix wasn't a giant - he was, and you should enjoy and marvel at what he left behind.

Whenever you discuss greats of a earlier ages you have the potential to run into a problem because you don't see them in the context of their times - what had come before and what things looked like after they did whatever they did. Hendrix upped the bar and changed the game in his time as the Beatles, Elvis and Dylan had. When you look back now rather than watch the whole thing unfold it gets harder to understand the impact these guys had and the changes they wrought. It gets especially hard for the 2nd half of the 60s when things changed at a dizzying rate.

Bob is right imho.
One should refrain from this "who's the best" ito everything I would say. I you ask any jazzer or classical player that Q about JH, he/she would just sniff at you. ? Personally I would say the most influential guitarist/s from Rock'n Roll era's are
Scotty Moore and Carl Perkins and Cliff Gallup...mid to late 50's plus all the bluesers like Muddy Waters, etc
Hank Marvin....early to mid 60's (his influence was enourmous in the UK and Brit Empire)
JH and Eric Clapton and, and, and,.....latish 60's (now things starts changeing at a dizzing rate as Bob says)
Brian May....70's (just sooo sophisticated)

the list continues...

JH was certainly very influential. But to say he is/was the best,...I don't think so.

Bob-Dubery

vic wrote: One should refrain from this "who's the best" ito everything I would say. I you ask any jazzer or classical player that Q about JH, he/she would just sniff at you. ?

I'm not so sure, well at least about the jazzers. Hendrix exerted some influence there too - most notably on Miles Davis. You could probably blame Hendrix for that whole jazz/rock/fusion scene. I think there was a lot less snobbishness about music back then, and with so much going on people tuned into all sorts of things.

PeteM

I defy anyone to define 'best'. Listen and enjoy. Stay 8)

Riaan

There is no "best guitarist" as Bob says. Just as there can't be a "best music ever written" or similar. There are however, some very, very good session guitarists who are not well known, even in guitar circles globally, who are not wealthy, and they don't have signature guitars or gear named after them. Many of them are "better" than our famous guitar hero's - Eric Clapton is the first to admit that in his autobiography.

Ray

Every couple of months there is some or other incarnation of this subject. And the same things get said. It is tiring really. Becasue surely guitar is like anything/everyhthing else. Was Muhammed Ali the greatest boxer of all time? or was it Rocky M or was it Joe Louis or was it Mike Tyson or maybe V Klitchko or more recently, X-R Bob Who knows, havent seen him box so maybe. But anyway how do you measure?

Bob-Dubery

Anyways, Seventhson now has an impressive sounding bunch of BS to impress his Mum's significant other with.

Listen... If they break up because he can't withstand the counter attack it's not our fault hey.

Bob-Dubery

Riaan wrote: There is no "best guitarist" as Bob says. Just as there can't be a "best music ever written" or similar. There are however, some very, very good session guitarists who are not well known, even in guitar circles globally, who are not wealthy, and they don't have signature guitars or gear named after them. Many of them are "better" than our famous guitar hero's - Eric Clapton is the first to admit that in his autobiography.

Not just session players. There are lots of players who, for whatever reason, don't penetrate the mass conciousness. Clapton was a huge admirer of the late John Martyn. I don't think any player wants to go around thinking they're the best.

costafonix

Thats why I enjoy playing guitar so much, you keep raising the bar and their is no limit, you keep learning something new every day. Personally, I rate guitarists by the mood they create, its that 'wow' factor that makes you replay a particular piece that they've done and ask 'how the ..... did they do that??' IMO, i could not see myself sitting through a 2 hour concert listening to someone like Joe Satriani, or Steve Vai or Al De Meola, even though they are all technically brillliant. I would like to hear a guitarist that can turn sound into something visual......and even then, you can't possibly measure them against other great guitarists.,.......ok I've had a couple of beers today but I think you know what I'm trying to say... :goodtimes:

Keira-WitherKay

X-rated Bob wrote:
Riaan wrote: There is no "best guitarist" as Bob says. Just as there can't be a "best music ever written" or similar. There are however, some very, very good session guitarists who are not well known, even in guitar circles globally, who are not wealthy, and they don't have signature guitars or gear named after them. Many of them are "better" than our famous guitar hero's - Eric Clapton is the first to admit that in his autobiography.
Not just session players. There are lots of players who, for whatever reason, don't penetrate the mass conciousness. Clapton was a huge admirer of the late John Martyn. I don't think any player wants to go around thinking they're the best.

to be famous ( we not talking the best ) involves more than just talent, it's personality, right place at right time, right music for the right time, appearance....... so yeah many many really top class/even cutting edge muso's don't make it cos they don't have that X factor ........ and many famous players are not neccessarily the best but they have something that creates mass appeal......

now if only i could isolate that X factor and bottle it i'd make a fortune selling it ?

Renesongs

(Warning, do not confuse anything I say as being factual or related to normal reality) Firstly I believe music to be an evolutionary process and that even the most extraordinary individuals such as Hendrix, Johnson, Davis, Coltrain, Mozart or Bach only ad a veneer more to what already exists. If Hendrix had been born in another era others may have taken his place like Buddy Guy who was making the guitar wail and cry and had incorporated heavy amounts of feedback into his blues sound. The British invasion; Clapton, Beck Towsnend, Blackmore, Page et al would have still made there contributions without Hendrix.

If jimi hendrix was born in the 70s and started a band in 80s would he be shred guitarist?

Absolutely, if he was born in to a white middle class American family with some Italian decent. Hendrix's fame would then be l eclipsed by Van Helen, Vai, Satriani, Petrucci, et al who would have had at least a 10 year head start on him.